Meet Our Team

Here at MainSpring we are fun, innovative and diverse with one common thread… we believe in the idea of a legacy. Learn how our story, values and approach create a culture and impact that’s undeniable.
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Marshall Micheals

Chief Executive Officer

Marshall Micheals

Chief Executive Officer

Marshall is the CEO and founder of MainSpring. His goal every day is to create a community of employees, clients and partners that help people create a legacy of success—in life and in business. From a three-person company in 1993 to more than 50 employees in four states supporting clients at home and abroad, Marshall remains focused on growth. He earned the 2014 Smart CEO Innovator Award, but is most proud of the countless employee-earned honors and being named one of the D.C. area’s best places to work.

He enjoys his family, loves to exchange stories, and shares his pain as a Kansas City Chiefs and Washington Capitals fan every chance he gets.

Tom Keller

Tom Keller

President & Chief Operating Officer

Tom Keller

President & Chief Operating Officer

Tom Keller joined MainSpring in 1999 as a client liaison in the cabling department, then created and developed the first iteration of the managed services offering and finally joined the consulting ranks.

As President and Chief Operating Officer, Tom oversees the development, management and growth of the MainSpring government consulting division as well as the ProSuite Support Centre. Tom borrows from his years of government experience to implement process-based consulting standards and resolution strategies across the firm.

A music enthusiast and fan of all things Philadelphia, Tom is most enthusiastic about being a dad to his three kids.

Ray Steen

Chief Strategy Officer

Ray Steen

Chief Strategy Officer

Ray Steen is the Chief Strategy Officer for MainSpring and has been with the firm since 2014. With over 25 years of experience in strategy, consulting and communications, his expertise arms clients with the strategies, tools and resources to meet their mission. Ray is a proud dad and coach of 5 kids, a fantasy sports nut and bleeds for the Chicago Bears and Boston Celtics

MainSpring IT managed services team

Jeremy Kaikko

Consulting and Integration Director

Jeremy Kaikko

Consulting and Integration Director

Jeremy Kaikko is MainSpring’s Consulting and Integration Director who works with business leaders to secure and move their businesses forward. Raised in northern Maryland, Jeremy enjoys spending time with his kids and friends, fishing and cheering on the Washington Capitals and Kansas City Chiefs. He has been at MainSpring for over 20 years.

Jim Bryan

Professional Services Consultant

Jim Bryan

Professional Services Consultant

Jim Bryan is a Professional Services Consultant. From Latrobe, Pennsylvania, Jim enjoys hobbies such as beer brewing, amateur radio, and other electronics work. Jim holds a degree in Mathematics with a minor in Computer Science.

Kenji D’Aguiar

Support Centre Lead

Kenji D’Aguiar

Support Centre Lead

Kenji joined MainSpring in 2012 as their Support Centre Lead. He’s responsible for overseeing MainSpring’s Support Centre and working with ProSuite clients on technical issues. Prior to working in IT, Kenji was also a chef concierge at multiple high-end hotels, like the Mandarin Oriental and the Biltmore, and was a personal concierge to multiple celebrities in Miami, Fl.

In his free time, Kenji likes to travel as much as he can. He’s a big fan of Real Madrid fútbol and also enjoys watching the English Premier League.

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Cleon Lenhardt

Virtual Chief Information Officer

Cleon Lenhardt

Virtual Chief Information Officer

Cleon joined MainSpring in 2013 and has over 20 years of IT consulting experience with small businesses, nonprofits, associations and the government. From his work at the Department of Treasury to his tenure at MainSpring, he has worked at all levels of information technology, ranging from technical support and security compliance auditing to strategic consulting.

In his free time, Cleon enjoys playing basketball, running and scuba diving. He’s also an avid Dallas Cowboys and L.A. Dodgers fan.

Dave Weisiger

Inside Sales Representative

Dave Weisiger

Inside Sales Representative

Dave Weisiger serves as an Inside Sales Representative at MainSpring, leveraging his proactiveness to identify new opportunities for streamlining technology solutions for businesses and organizations.

Born and raised in Illinois, Dave spends his weekends enjoying rounds of golf and experimenting with new meat-smoking techniques. He is a dedicated fan of the Chicago Cubs and the Bears and loves to spend time with his wife and kids.

Before becoming a valued member of the MainSpring team, Dave held the position of an On-Site Customer Service Representative at an industrial supplier. With a natural inclination for interpersonal communication, combined with his distinct personality, he possesses a solid foundation for achieving success in his current role.

Josh Tankersley

Virtual Chief Information Officer

Josh Tankersley

Virtual Chief Information Officer

Josh Tankersley serves as a Virtual Chief Information Officer (vCIO) guiding clients through the dynamic landscape of IT and uncovering ways to leverage technology to enhance and empower their businesses. The most fulfilling aspect of his role is the gratitude from helping individuals and creating meaningful relationships along the way.  

Born and raised in Fredericksburg, Virginia, Josh is inquisitive and enjoys learning the mysteries of how things work. As an avid tinkerer, he finds delight in exploring the inner workings of various systems and understanding how their components come together. In his free time, Josh finds himself tending to his own vegetable garden and experimenting with food. While he isn’t a huge sports fan, he supports the Indianapolis Colts as his chosen team.  

Craig Kergald

Systems Engineer

Craig Kergald

Systems Engineer

Craig joined MainSpring in 2009 as a systems engineer. Previously, he was in the Air Force for many years, providing IT support and working as a broadcast engineer. Later, he transitioned to Hewlett Packard, where he provided IT support for their internal employees. After that, he worked for United Launch Alliance–supporting launch operations and general IT needs for the Atlas 5, Delta 4 and Delta 2 unmanned rockets in Cape Canaveral, Fl. Now, at MainSpring, Craig provides IT support for all ProSuite clients.

Craig enjoys cruising around and spending time with his two sons, whom are both autistic. He is a big supporter of raising Autism awareness. While he’s not a fan of any particular sports’ teams, he does enjoy watching sumo wrestling in his free time.

Matt Torrez

Systems Engineer

Matt Torrez

Systems Engineer

Matt joined MainSpring in 2018 as a systems engineer. He’s a former Marine with over 10 years of in-house IT management experience, as well as six years of experience working with an MSP. Currently, he’s responsible for providing technical support to ProSuite clients.

In his free time, Matt enjoys painting, photography, working on his old motorcycle, playing the guitar and drums and spending time with his two kids, Emma and Aaron. He’s the proud owner of a dog and three cats, and he has an uncanny ability to tame wild, neighborhood squirrels! You can also find Matt cheering for his alma mater, the Nebraska Cornhuskers any chance he gets, as well as the Washington Redskins and the Washington Capitals.

Jairo Camargo

Systems Engineer

Jairo Camargo

Systems Engineer

Jairo Camargo is a System Engineer who assists MainSpring customers with all IT issues and concerns. Born in Colombia, Jairo calls Frederick his hometown. He has five grand-dogs, enjoys spending time with his wife and watching soccer. Jairo has worked in IT roles for over 15 years and holds a Bachelors in Electrical Engineering from Xaverian University in Bogota, Colombia.

Viral Mehta

Virtual Chief Information Officer

Viral Mehta

Virtual Chief Information Officer

Viral Mehta currently serves as a Virtual Chief Information Officer at MainSpring, playing a vital role as an “offensive coordinator” for the IT department. He most cherishes the chance to establish strong connections with his teammates and clients.

Born and raised in Gaithersburg, Maryland with his formative years spent in New Market, Viral spends his free time engaged in various sports like basketball and softball. Additionally, he enjoys embarking on hikes with his loyal canine companion and taking in the joyous moments as his children participate in their own baseball and soccer games. Of utmost importance to him is quality time with his cherished wife.

Viral earned an Associates Degree from the University of Phoenix, complementing his professional journey which includes roles as a Program Manager and Network Engineer. These positions have provided him with the valuable skills necessary to excel as a Virtual Chief Information Officer.

Ashley Simmons

Project Coordinator

Ashley Simmons

Project Coordinator

Ashley Simmons is a Technical Project Coordinator who spearheads the communications of new and ongoing projects for IT managed services clients. Ashley is proud to call Frederick home for more than 25 years and enjoys baking, refinishing and repurposing old furniture, and raising German Shepherds with her husband.

Shadi Haider

Project Team Supervisor

Shadi Haider

Project Team Supervisor

Shadi Haider is a Project Team Supervisor who plans, executes, deploys and manages client infrastructures. Raised in Liberia, Shadi enjoys motorcycling, soccer and cheering on Real Madrid, the Golden State Warriors and the Ravens.

Donovan Parker-Aleem

Technical Support Engineer

Donovan Parker-Aleem

Technical Support Engineer

Donovan Parker Aleem is a Tier 2 Field Engineer who ensures client environments are in compliance with industry best practices. His favorite aspect of his role is working with vCIO’s to understand client needs and deliver solutions. Raised in Baltimore, Donovan enjoys a good workout at the gym and learning about plants and flowers.

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Jose Vargas

ProSuite Administrator

Jose Vargas

ProSuite Administrator

Jose Vargas is a ProSuite Administrator for MainSpring. Raised in Rockville, Maryland, Jose enjoys playing football, video games and DJ’ing. He is also an avid traveler, having visited over 30 countries. In Jose’s spare time, he helps coach the Rockville Rampage Softball team.

John Laub

Senior Business Technology Consultant

John Laub

Senior Business Technology Consultant

John is a Senior Business Technology Consultant. Raised in Bitburg, Germany, John likes to build electronic devices, design circuits and circuit boards, play chess, and work on his own vehicles. He is also working on getting his private pilot’s license.

Holding a bachelor’s degree in computer science, John is the former owner and CEO of Gray Leaf Technology Strategists. He also spends many hours each month volunteering his time to help people. John is a part of the Local JW Design and Construction helping create technology solutions with the U.S Property Valuation Group.

Kyle Webb

Service Desk Support Specialist

Kyle Webb

Service Desk Support Specialist

Kyle Webb is a Service Desk Support Specialist who learns how businesses operate to find solutions to long-standing issues. Raised in Martinsburg, WV, Kyle likes hanging out with his friends, watching Real Madrid play, and playing Dungeons & Dragons.

Holding a BS in Sports Marketing and his MBA in Sports Management, Kyle has worked as a project manager, a substitute teacher, and a radio intern. He also supports the Central Chapel community and New Life Global Ministries.

Fuki Goto

Fuki Goto

Business Development Representative

Fuki Goto

Business Development Representative

Fuki Goto is a Business Development Representative for MainSpring, generating active and qualified sales appointments while working in a fast-paced environment in the growing technology consulting market.

Fuki was born in Tokyo, Japan, but grew up in Allen, Texas. Earning his MSC in International Business and his BA in Political Science, Fuki spends free time researching and learning to gain a better understanding of basic economics.

Amber Poole

Dispatch, Managed Services

Amber Poole

Dispatch, Managed Services

Amber Poole is a dispatch for our Managed Services Call Center. She provides outsourced customer support to businesses, managing all aspects of the customer support function from handling phone calls and emails to resolving customer issues and providing technical support. 

Born and raised in New Market, Maryland, Amber enjoys working on home equipment, her jeep and her husbands truck for preventative maintenance. 

Jonathan Vargas

Deployment Support Engineer

Jonathan Vargas

Deployment Support Engineer

Jonathan Vargas is a Deployment Support Engineer for the Integration team planning and supporting new system installations and other onsite services.

Growing up in Rockville, Maryland, Jonathan loves to travel, go to the gym, cheer on the LA Rams and crack jokes with family and friends. He also spends his free time coaching his nieces softball team.

Earning his Associates Degree from Montgomery College, Jonathan has worked in premium appliance sales, as a Geek Squad manager, sales supervisor, and was a Sony vendor.

Alex Gomes

Systems Engineer

Alex Gomes

Systems Engineer

Alex Gomes is a Systems Engineer dedicated to tackling intricate challenges in the realm of computer and network infrastructure. With a passion for assisting individuals and a drive for knowledge, he thrives on the opportunity to continuously explore and master emerging technologies.

Born and raised in Portugal, Alex finds joy in discovering new restaurants, exploring the world through cruises, maintaining lawns, and working on cars. In addition to his passion for exploration and his hobbies, Alex is multilingual speaking English, Portuguese, and Spanish.  

Alex holds an Associates Degree in Electronics Engineering Technology, and he has earned certifications as a Microsoft Certified Professional and CompTIA Network+. These reflect his expertise and dedication to the field of technology.  

Mark Arenberg

Senior Solutions Architect

Mark Arenberg

Senior Solutions Architect

Mark Arenberg currently holds the position of Senior Solutions Architect at MainSpring, where he leverages his determined nature and strong interpersonal skills to excel in his role.

Born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland, Mark’s persona; interests revolve around sports, particularly football and baseball, with his favorite teams being the Ravens and Orioles. He also enjoys fitness, video games and traveling. In addition to his personal pursuits, Mark contributes to his community by coaching Rugby at Calvert Hall High School.

In 2014, Mark earned his Bachelor of Science in Information Technology. Since then, he has accumulated a wealth of experience, having worked as a Project Engineer, Senior Escalations Engineer, and Solutions Architect. Notably, he was recognized as “Most Humorous” during his time in Middle School.

Robbie Parsons

Systems Engineer

Robbie Parsons

Systems Engineer

Robbie is a Systems Engineer for MainSpring. Raised in Florida. Robbie’s hobbies include graphic and t-shirt design, self-hosting, and gaming on his Steamdeck. With a diverse background spanning roles from IT Manager to Network Engineer, Robbie holds certifications including MCSA, CCNA, Net+, Sec+, and more, and actively contributes to organizations like VMware.

MainSpring application development team

Prat Hin

Senior Developer, Team Lead

Prat Hin

Senior Developer, Team Lead

Prat joined MainSpring in March of 2008 as their application developer team lead. He’s responsible for helping clients develop custom, innovative solutions to better grow their business. He also provides guidance to other developers when needed.

Prat enjoys fishing, traveling and playing basketball in his free time.

Mike Beargie

Senior Developer

Mike Beargie

Senior Developer

Mike Beargie has been with MainSpring since 2013 and has over 10 years of application development experience. As a developer, he creates solutions for clients in a wide variety of sectors across the U.S. and abroad. Prior to working at MainSpring, Mike worked as the lead developer for a consulting company, serving high profile political, special interest and nonprofit clients in the Washington, D.C., and Columbus, Ohio, markets.

Mike regularly presents solutions and best practices to the FileMaker development community around the country, and is well known as an answer man online as well. In 2014 and 2016, Mike was recognized with the FileMaker Excellence Award for community contributions. Mike is a man of many hobbies, including woodworking, home brewing, art and music.

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Maria Melendez de Salas

Client Services

Maria Melendez de Salas

Client Services

Maria Melendez de Salas has served as the firm’s FileMaker licensing and hosting guru since 2008. She’s a staunch believer that FileMaker has a place in every business. She’s widely known in the FileMaker world as the go-to person for all things FileMaker licensing and hosting, and has been recognized by Claris International for her expertise. She has over 20 years of experience in business development, consultative sales and customer service. Maria loves to be involved in her community, spending time with family, enjoys crafting and a good game of dominos.

Ryan McTeer

Senior Developer

Ryan McTeer

Senior Developer

Ryan joined MainSpring in April of 2018 as an associate application developer and works in our Towson office. He graduated from Towson University with his bachelor’s degree in computer science and is responsible for developing and supporting software and database applications for MainSpring’s client base, as well as internal projects.

Ryan enjoys spending time outside, hiking, biking, swimming, snowboarding and flying drones. He also enjoys rock concerts, bowling and watching MMA and wrestling. His favorite sports team is the Baltimore Orioles.

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Jeff Drake

Senior Developer

Jeff Drake

Senior Developer

Jeff Drake joined the MainSpring team in 2021. Prior to joining MainSpring, Jeff was working as a Senior FileMaker Developer for PaleoWest, a Phoenix-based company that does cultural preservation. He worked primarily on their internal systems as well as their commercial iPad app.

Jeff has been married to his wife Anna for more than 20 years and has three kids. One of Jeff’s current passions is fixing up their old house. Jeff grew up in a diehard Yankees household living about 20 minutes from New York City. To this day, he still loves the Bronx Bombers, but now that his family is in Cincinnati they love the Reds as well.

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Sean Moore

Senior Developer

Sean Moore

Senior Developer

Sean Moore joined the Dataworks team in 2021 as an Associate Developer. Sean is a FileMaker and Web Developer who has built and maintained solutions to handle a wide variety of educational needs including admissions, billing, and a health office.

Sean has a dog named Stella who is a two-year lab rescue from Texas and who loves to play fetch in the river for hours on end. He also claims to be a bit of a nerd because in his downtime he plays Dungeons and Dragons and participates in the heavy list combat in the Society for Creative Anachronism (putting on full armor and hitting people with sticks). Sean also enjoys going for hikes or camping and taking Stella to the park.

​​​​​Since Sean lives in Massachusetts, he feels obligated to root for the Red Sox and Patriots. Another fun fact is that Sean is passionate about learning science and sustainability, and he also really enjoys riding his motorcycle through the hills.

Ariel Gely

Associate Developer

Ariel Gely

Associate Developer

Ariel Gely joined MainSpring in January 2022 as an associate developer. Prior to MainSpring, Ariel worked for the Milwaukee Public School system as a management intern assisting business analysts with process improvements and database management. He graduated from the University of Wisconsin in 2017 with an Information Technology Management degree and is excited to be able to put all his learned skills to use in the field with the MainSpring development team.

Ariel is a big gamer and plays many genres. He’s also a fan of comics and he likes to dabble into many different genres of music and really enjoys listening to new releases. He’s not a big sports fan but will root for his hometown teams (Brewers, Bucks and Packers).

Brian Holz

Senior Project Manager

Brian Holz

Senior Project Manager

Brian Holz is the Senior Project Manager at MainSpring working with system engineers to design, architect and implement creative application solutions for a variety of government and commercial clients.

With over 30 years of experience working with customers in medical, electronics, and general industrial manufacturing, Brian provided solutions to their bonding, labeling and part protection problems.

Born in Neenah, Wisconsin, the land of cheese curds and triple chocolate donuts, Brian enjoys cooking, baking, and gardening. He also enjoys spending creative time working with a potters wheel and kiln.

Dallas Grabher

Business Development Representative

Dallas Grabher

Business Development Representative

Dallas Grabher is a Business Development Representative specializing in driving growth and forging strategic partnerships.

Born and raised in Hendersonville, Tennessee, Dallas finds joy in exploring the open road on his motorcycle and spending time with his poodle, Chloe.

Earning a Bachelor’s degree in Healthcare Administration and an Associates in Applied Science, Dallas brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to his role. His previous work experience includes a successful run at Success Capital Management, where he learned skills in fostering professional relationships and identified lucrative business opportunities.

Michael Heckman

Mike Heckman

Mid-Level Developer

Mike Heckman

Mid-Level Developer

Mike Heckman joined the development team in 2023 as a Mid-Level Developer. Mike is an App Developer who has built Apps for DB Services. He is also FM and Salesforce Admin. Certified.

Mike loves spending his free time writing. When he’s not doing that he is hosting a Minecraft server.

Mike lives in New Paris, Indiana and received his Bachelor of Science in 2022. 

MainSpring government solutions team

Dean Martin

Project Manager

Dean Martin

Project Manager

Dean Martin has been with MainSpring since 2015. He provides administrative oversight for his team, which has members stationed across the country and abroad. Prior to MainSpring, Dean spent 22 years in the Army, retiring in 2009 as the 555th Engineer Brigade Communication Chief. Since then, he has worked for General Dynamics as the Western Regional Manager at Fort Lewis and also the Korea Operations Manager at USAG Yongsan, Seoul South Korea.

When he’s not working on his MBA, Dean enjoys hiking in the Olympic and Cascade mountain ranges, as well as boating on the Puget Sound. You can also find him rooting for his favorite football team—the Seattle Seahawks. Go Hawks!

Mike Wilhide

Information Systems Security Manager

Mike Wilhide

Information Systems Security Manager

Mike joined MainSpring in 2010 and has spent the last four years of his 10-year IT career supporting the Army’s cybersecurity mission. As a security engineer, Mike is responsible for ensuring that systems are compliant with DoD and federal cybersecurity regulations by performing vulnerability assessments, designing remediation strategies and implementing innovative security solutions.

Mike has been a member of the Information Systems Security Association since 2011 and earned his (ISC)2 CISSP certification in 2013. He enjoys spending his free time practicing security research in his home lab, hanging out at Baltimore music venues and traveling the U.S. with his wife.

Leann Micheals

Clinical Applications Consultant & SME

Leann Micheals

Clinical Applications Consultant & SME

Leann joined MainSpring in June 2004 as their clinical applications consultant/SME. With over 20 years of experience in the clinical environment as a nurse and nurse practitioner, Leann is now working in healthcare information systems for the Army. She is responsible for software testing, OTS application training, providing help desk and end user support in addition to being a clinical resource and SME.

Leann enjoys traveling, reading and watching her daughter play travel softball. She is also currently attending school for her Healthcare Informatics certification.

Laura Micheals

Clinical SME

Laura Micheals

Clinical SME

Laura Micheals joined MainSpring in June of 2018 as the accounting and sales associate.

She assists in our accounting department with a variety of bookkeeping tasks as well as helps our Filemaker team with setting up our hosting clients. Laura recently took a part-time position with our Government Solutions group as a Modeling & Simulation Specialist supporting live, constructive or virtual training across multiple project assignments.

Prior to MainSpring Laura worked at Mercy Regional Medical Center for 23 years as an ICU nurse and then diabetes educator.

Laura enjoys gardening and lives in Ohio with her husband Marshall.

Angela Price

Project Manager

Angela Price

Project Manager

Angela joined MainSpring in 2015 as a technical writer and e-Learning developer. She specializes in training development and coordination. As an active member of the Association for Talent Development (ATD), Angela stays current on new research and trends in training and employee development.

Angela enjoys listening to live music, chauffeuring her sons to activities, baking, reading, and coloring–but ALWAYS inside the lines.

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Theresa Dalton

Director, Human Resources

Theresa Dalton

Director, Human Resources

Theresa Dalton joined MainSpring in 2013 and serves as the Director of Human Resources for the team. She is responsible for managing new hire onboarding, payroll, benefits and the 401(k) profit sharing plan. She has over 18 years of business experience, including process development, employee engagement programs, contract administration and recruitment. Prior to MainSpring, Theresa was the director of operations for a small start-up government contractor and managed all activities related to the operations and development of the company.

Theresa is a loyal D.C. sports fan, especially the Washington Capitals, Nationals and The Washington Commanders and attends games every chance she gets. She also enjoys spending time traveling with her husband and family.

Michele Tate

Accounting Manager

Michele Tate

Accounting Manager

Michele Tate has been with MainSpring since 2014 and has 15 years of experience in customer service, accounting and office managing.

Prior to MainSpring she worked briefly for the Frederick County, Md, school system as a pre-K through 5th grade substitute teacher before deciding to return to her roots in accounting.

She enjoys musical theatre, live music and assisting her husband on his DJ gigs. She’s a mom to her canine child Mardi Gras, an advocate for pit bulls and bully breeds and is an avid New Orleans Saints fan who can often be heard yelling Who Dat!

Rebecca La Tourette

Accounting Assistant

Rebecca La Tourette

Accounting Assistant

Rebecca La Tourette is an Accounting Assistant and supports the Accounting Manager with daily and monthly accounting functions. From lower Alabama, Rebecca enjoys singing, cooking, reading, and watching movies. She has nearly 20 years of experience in accounting and holds a Bachelor’s in Early Childhood Education from the University of MD, College Park.

Renee Haverland

Senior Administrative Specialist

Renee Haverland

Senior Administrative Specialist

Renee Haverland is a Senior Administrative Specialist who provides administrative and marketing support to a diverse team of IT professionals. Raised in Richmond, Virginia, Renee enjoys spending time with her family, taking advantage of Frederick’s many activities, and is fluent in American Sign Language. She holds a BA from James Madison University.

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Supporting our core values

  • Wooden door and hinge

    Connect

    Make every interaction count, whether it’s with a client, vendor or co-worker. Strong, meaningful connections lead to retention.

  • Door and Tree

    Own

    Own the problem; don’t assume someone else has it. While you may not work an issue from start to finish, ensure closure.

  • Silver gears

    Innovate

    Think outside the box to resolve a problem. In our industry, many tasks are somewhat routine, but make sure you are always thinking of a better way.

  • Bullet train in front of mountain

    Expedite

    Today not tomorrow; see a problem, fix a problem.

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    Succeed

    Find the ‘win-win’.